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i want to buy swaps on mortgage bonds a credit default swap that will pay off if the underlying bond fails you want to bet against the housing market why those bonds only fail if millions of americans dont pay their mortgages thats never happened in history if youll excuse me dr barry it seems like a foolish investment based on prevailing sentiment the market banks in popular culture yes its full of investment but uh everyones wrong this is wall street dr berry if you offer us free money we are going to take it my one concern is is that uh when the bonds fail uh i i want to be certain um of payment um in case of solvency issues with your bank im sorry are you for real you want to bet against the housing market and youre worried we wont pay you yes dr barry we could work out a pay-as-you-go structure that would pay out if the bonds fail but it would also apply to your payments if the value of the mortgage bond goes up youd have to pay us monthly premiums is that acceptable dr b