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so were just gonna pass around a an artifact Ill explain that in a minute okay so lets see its 2015 so three years ago or two and a half years ago I was meeting with Bob glushko whos a adjunct professor at UC Berkeley and he was he had he had been working on putting together a book for the past three years hed gathered all his notes he was ready to get going he had several chapters together and he showed me one of them and being being an editor being an author and editor for many years I looked at it and sat down with a panel and started editing I handed it to him in the morning and he said wow thats great would you like to be my editor and I said yeah but only if I get to do it my way if Im gonna produce a book Im gonna produce a real book Im not gonna produce something thats you know well most of the books that you see in the market today I want it I want to do it right he said well what do you mean and I said well you know weve got to have an index for example weve got