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right well you can you hear me all hit me okay good well thanks very much for making it this afternoon free DV is a way of sending voice over HF or VHF using digital techniques and its particular Forte is its very narrow band and that it can work in very poor signal-to-noise conditions which I have a live demo demo of later in the talk so keep fingers crossed because you know as we were saying earlier demos have a habit of not always working quite as you would have liked okay so and the reason I wanted to talk about it is because its all developed by amateur radio enthusiasts around the world there is one guy who has really spent a lot of time on it for which we have to thank David Rowe and Ive got his callsign later hes from Australia but I think its one its an interesting mode to experiment with it really is a bit of experimentation on HF its the first new method of sending voice on HF since the 1950s when people started to use sideband and - I think its an amazing piece of